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		<title>By: &#187; VDI or TS, VDI and TS</title>
		<link>http://www.jimmoyle.com/2009/05/why-is-vdi-changing-into-terminal-server/comment-page-1/#comment-1401</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; VDI or TS, VDI and TS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: &#187; User Installed Applications &#8211; My Take - JimMoyle.com</title>
		<link>http://www.jimmoyle.com/2009/05/why-is-vdi-changing-into-terminal-server/comment-page-1/#comment-262</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; User Installed Applications &#8211; My Take - JimMoyle.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 23:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is the key differentiator for VDI over terminal services, as I said in a previous post Why is VDI changing into Terminal Server? the difference between Terminal Services and VDI is actually very small without it.  If we want to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TS / VDI &#8211; are we really needing VDI yet? Doesn&#8217;t TS deliver similar stuff? &#171; AppSense</title>
		<link>http://www.jimmoyle.com/2009/05/why-is-vdi-changing-into-terminal-server/comment-page-1/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>TS / VDI &#8211; are we really needing VDI yet? Doesn&#8217;t TS deliver similar stuff? &#171; AppSense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] days ago, and the one which is linked into Brian&#8217;s post written by Jim Moyle of VisionApp (http://www.jimmoyle.com/2009/05/why-is-vdi-changing-into-terminal-server/) some time before then, tend to hit the nail on the head rather [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] days ago, and the one which is linked into Brian&#8217;s post written by Jim Moyle of VisionApp (http://www.jimmoyle.com/2009/05/why-is-vdi-changing-into-terminal-server/) some time before then, tend to hit the nail on the head rather [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TS / VDI &#8211; do I really need to use VDI yet? Isn&#8217;t it delivering the same thing as my TS setup? &#171; Rambling Rusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>TS / VDI &#8211; do I really need to use VDI yet? Isn&#8217;t it delivering the same thing as my TS setup? &#171; Rambling Rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of just a few days ago, and the one which is linked into Brian&#8217;s post written by Jim Moyle (http://www.jimmoyle.com/2009/05/why-is-vdi-changing-into-terminal-server/) some time before then, tend to hit the nail on the head rather [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of just a few days ago, and the one which is linked into Brian&#8217;s post written by Jim Moyle (<a href="http://www.jimmoyle.com/2009/05/why-is-vdi-changing-into-terminal-server/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jimmoyle.com/2009/05/why-is-vdi-changing-into-terminal-server/</a>) some time before then, tend to hit the nail on the head rather [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree and I wrote a similar piece on dabcc a while back - 

http://www.dabcc.com/article.aspx?id=10214

Read today on Harry Labana&#039;s site that even &quot;Desktop virtualisation&quot; isn&#039;t the same as &quot;server virtualisation&quot; - I expect it 6 months it&#039;ll be &#039;but these TS based solutions are just like VDI, why don&#039;t we just do VDI&#039; :?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree and I wrote a similar piece on dabcc a while back &#8211; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.dabcc.com/article.aspx?id=10214" rel="nofollow">http://www.dabcc.com/article.aspx?id=10214</a></p>
<p>Read today on Harry Labana&#8217;s site that even &#8220;Desktop virtualisation&#8221; isn&#8217;t the same as &#8220;server virtualisation&#8221; &#8211; I expect it 6 months it&#8217;ll be &#8216;but these TS based solutions are just like VDI, why don&#8217;t we just do VDI&#8217; <img src='http://jimmoyle.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif' alt=':?' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Of Course</title>
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		<dc:creator>Of Course</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, I googled &quot;VDI is like terminal server&quot; and was hoping to stumble upon an article exactly like this.  You stole the words right out of my mouth.  Virtualization simply takes away from the user and gives back to the administrator (until support calls roll in).  

All virtualization whinds up doing is burning a box out quicker, by utilizing much more of the hardware.  It&#039;s like the same truck that tow&#039;s 200 lbs a day (my fat ass) is now towing 2000 lbs a day (10 of me).  I&#039;m no physicist, but an electronic appliance without the capability to heal, will degrade faster.  Who cares about saving electricity when you have to pay atrocious VMWare prices or have to get bent over by open source solutions.  These solutions reduce hardware lifetime and increase system failure/crashes.  I mean sure, you have a farm of virtualized servers and can fail over, but it&#039;s not knife-edge and it&#039;s surely not a step up toward the future.  

I think we&#039;ve allowed the geek factor to get way out of hand on these concepts.  Why not make servers cheaper and more efficient.  Energy cannot be created or destroyed, but some IT guy thinks it can be virtualized... God help us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, I googled &#8220;VDI is like terminal server&#8221; and was hoping to stumble upon an article exactly like this.  You stole the words right out of my mouth.  Virtualization simply takes away from the user and gives back to the administrator (until support calls roll in).  </p>
<p>All virtualization whinds up doing is burning a box out quicker, by utilizing much more of the hardware.  It&#8217;s like the same truck that tow&#8217;s 200 lbs a day (my fat ass) is now towing 2000 lbs a day (10 of me).  I&#8217;m no physicist, but an electronic appliance without the capability to heal, will degrade faster.  Who cares about saving electricity when you have to pay atrocious VMWare prices or have to get bent over by open source solutions.  These solutions reduce hardware lifetime and increase system failure/crashes.  I mean sure, you have a farm of virtualized servers and can fail over, but it&#8217;s not knife-edge and it&#8217;s surely not a step up toward the future.  </p>
<p>I think we&#8217;ve allowed the geek factor to get way out of hand on these concepts.  Why not make servers cheaper and more efficient.  Energy cannot be created or destroyed, but some IT guy thinks it can be virtualized&#8230; God help us.</p>
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		<title>By: David R</title>
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		<dc:creator>David R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your post was dead on. We had started a POC with XenDesktop. We had numerous issues with profile management, MAC address licenscing, application management and stability. It makes it even more diffucult to justify if you already have a Presentation server install. In my opinion if you do not have a locked down environment, like a bank or school you will ned to invest a lot of time(creating streamed packages, implementing advanced profile maagement and license tracking tools) and money to make this a viable solution at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your post was dead on. We had started a POC with XenDesktop. We had numerous issues with profile management, MAC address licenscing, application management and stability. It makes it even more diffucult to justify if you already have a Presentation server install. In my opinion if you do not have a locked down environment, like a bank or school you will ned to invest a lot of time(creating streamed packages, implementing advanced profile maagement and license tracking tools) and money to make this a viable solution at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich McPharlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich McPharlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey 
 &#187; Why is VDI changing into Terminal Server? - JimMoyle.com, great article, really well though out and very much enjoyed.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey<br />
 &raquo; Why is VDI changing into Terminal Server? &#8211; JimMoyle.com, great article, really well though out and very much enjoyed.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Electronic Drum Kits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Electronic Drum Kits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great post :) I learnt a lot about terminal servers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great post <img src='http://jimmoyle.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I learnt a lot about terminal servers.</p>
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		<title>By: Kemick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kemick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 07:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>love it. thanks for the post. Keep it going! Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>love it. thanks for the post. Keep it going! Thank you</p>
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